2009 and NIBIRU

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Permalink Reply by Garfield on March 9, 2010 at 6:26am

This article is amazing.
Everything we knew about the origins of human civilisation has just been turned on its head,
A German archaeologist, digging in Turkey, near the border with Syria, has found a temple complex that is 7000 years older than the Pyramids or anything in what used to be Sumeria. Its huge and in good condition with many standing stones with T shape tops, representing the '' gods'' and they're huge.
This is BEFORE villages, crop growing, animal husbandry, everything.
It proves that the first thing primitive man ever did was worship '' the gods''.
The time is exactly 2 Nibiru cycles before Sumeria, After a thousand years, worship stopped suddenly. The site was deliberately filled in.
Was that cos '' the gods'' left? Were they early Annunaki explorers and coloniststs?

History in the Remaking
A temple complex in Turkey that predates even the pyramids is rewriting the story of human evolution.
By Patrick Symmes | NEWSWEEK
Published Feb 19, 2010
From the magazine issue dated Mar 1, 2010
They call it potbelly hill, after the soft, round contour of this final lookout in southeastern Turkey. To the north are forested mountains. East of the hill lies the biblical plain of Harran, and to the south is the Syrian border, visible 20 miles away, pointing toward the ancient lands of Mesopotamia and the Fertile Crescent, the region that gave rise to human civilization. And under our feet, according to archeologist Klaus Schmidt, are the stones that mark the spot—the exact spot—where humans began that ascent.


Standing on the hill at dawn, overseeing a team of 40 Kurdish diggers, the German-born archeologist waves a hand over his discovery here, a revolution in the story of human origins. Schmidt has uncovered a vast and beautiful temple complex, a structure so ancient that it may be the very first thing human beings ever built. The site isn't just old, it redefines old: the temple was built 11,500 years ago—a staggering 7,000 years before the Great Pyramid, and more than 6,000 years before Stonehenge first took shape. The ruins are so early that they predate villages, pottery, domesticated animals, and even agriculture—the first embers of civilization. In fact, Schmidt thinks the temple itself, built after the end of the last Ice Age by hunter-gatherers, became that ember—the spark that launched mankind toward farming, urban life, and all that followed.

Göbekli Tepe—the name in Turkish for "potbelly hill"—lays art and religion squarely at the start of that journey. After a dozen years of patient work, Schmidt has uncovered what he thinks is definitive proof that a huge ceremonial site flourished here, a "Rome of the Ice Age," as he puts it, where hunter-gatherers met to build a complex religious community. Across the hill, he has found carved and polished circles of stone, with terrazzo flooring and double benches. All the circles feature massive T-shaped pillars that evoke the monoliths of Easter Island.

Though not as large as Stonehenge—the biggest circle is 30 yards across, the tallest pillars 17 feet high—the ruins are astonishing in number. Last year Schmidt found his third and fourth examples of the temples. Ground-penetrating radar indicates that another 15 to 20 such monumental ruins lie under the surface. Schmidt's German-Turkish team has also uncovered some 50 of the huge pillars, including two found in his most recent dig season that are not just the biggest yet, but, according to carbon dating, are the oldest monumental artworks in the world.

The new discoveries are finally beginning to reshape the slow-moving consensus of archeology. Göbekli Tepe is "unbelievably big and amazing, at a ridiculously early date," according to Ian Hodder, director of Stanford's archeology program. Enthusing over the "huge great stones and fantastic, highly refined art" at Göbekli, Hodder—who has spent decades on rival Neolithic sites—says: "Many people think that it changes everything…It overturns the whole apple cart. All our theories were wrong."

Schmidt's thesis is simple and bold: it was the urge to worship that brought mankind together in the very first urban conglomerations. The need to build and maintain this temple, he says, drove the builders to seek stable food sources, like grains and animals that could be domesticated, and then to settle down to guard their new way of life. The temple begat the city.

This theory reverses a standard chronology of human origins, in which primitive man went through a "Neolithic revolution" 10,000 to 12,000 years ago. In the old model, shepherds and farmers appeared first, and then created pottery, villages, cities, specialized labor, kings, writing, art, and—somewhere on the way to the airplane—organized religion. As far back as Jean-Jacques Rousseau, thinkers have argued that the social compact of cities came first, and only then the "high" religions with their great temples, a paradigm still taught in American high schools.


Religion now appears so early in civilized life—earlier than civilized life, if Schmidt is correct—that some think it may be less a product of culture than a cause of it, less a revelation than a genetic inheritance. The archeologist Jacques Cauvin once posited that "the beginning of the gods was the beginning of agriculture," and Göbekli may prove his case.

The builders of Göbekli Tepe could not write or leave other explanations of their work. Schmidt speculates that nomadic bands from hundreds of miles in every direction were already gathering here for rituals, feasting, and initiation rites before the first stones were cut. The religious purpose of the site is implicit in its size and location. "You don't move 10-ton stones for no reason," Schmidt observes. "Temples like to be on high sites," he adds, waving an arm over the stony, round hilltop. "Sanctuaries like to be away from the mundane world."

Unlike most discoveries from the ancient world, Göbekli Tepe was found intact, the stones upright, the order and artistry of the work plain even to the un-trained eye. Most startling is the elaborate carving found on about half of the 50 pillars Schmidt has unearthed. There are a few abstract symbols, but the site is almost covered in graceful, naturalistic sculptures and bas-reliefs of the animals that were central to the imagination of hunter-gatherers. Wild boar and cattle are depicted, along with totems of power and intelligence, like lions, foxes, and leopards. Many of the biggest pillars are carved with arms, including shoulders, elbows, and jointed fingers. The T shapes appear to be towering humanoids but have no faces, hinting at the worship of ancestors or humanlike deities. "In the Bible it talks about how God created man in his image," says Johns Hopkins archeologist Glenn Schwartz. Göbekli Tepe "is the first time you can see humans with that idea, that they resemble gods."

The temples thus offer unexpected proof that mankind emerged from the 140,000-year reign of hunter-gatherers with a ready vocabulary of spiritual imagery, and capable of huge logistical, economic, and political efforts. A Catholic born in Franconia, Germany, Schmidt wanders the site in a white turban, pointing out the evidence of that transition. "The people here invented agriculture. They were the inventors of cultivated plants, of domestic architecture," he says.

Göbekli sits at the Fertile Crescent's northernmost tip, a productive borderland on the shoulder of forests and within sight of plains. The hill was ideally situated for ancient hunters. Wild gazelles still migrate past twice a year as they did 11 millennia ago, and birds fly overhead in long skeins. Genetic mapping shows that the first domestication of wheat was in this immediate area—perhaps at a mountain visible in the distance—a few centuries after Göbekli's founding. Animal husbandry also began near here—the first domesticated pigs came from the surrounding area in about 8000 B.C., and cattle were domesticated in Turkey before 6500 B.C. Pottery followed. Those discoveries then flowed out to places like Çatalhöyük, the oldest-known Neolithic village, which is 300 miles to the west.

The artists of Göbekli Tepe depicted swarms of what Schmidt calls "scary, nasty" creatures: spiders, scorpions, snakes, triple-fanged monsters, and, most common of all, carrion birds. The single largest carving shows a vulture poised over a headless human. Schmidt theorizes that human corpses were ex-posed here on the hilltop for consumption by birds—what a Tibetan would call a sky burial. Sifting the tons of dirt removed from the site has produced very few human bones, however, perhaps because they were removed to distant homes for ancestor worship. Absence is the source of Schmidt's great theoretical claim. "There are no traces of daily life," he explains. "No fire pits. No trash heaps. There is no water here." Everything from food to flint had to be imported, so the site "was not a village," Schmidt says. Since the temples predate any known settlement anywhere, Schmidt concludes that man's first house was a house of worship: "First the temple, then the city," he insists.
Some archeologists, like Hodder, the Neolithic specialist, wonder if Schmidt has simply missed evidence of a village or if his dating of the site is too precise. But the real reason the ruins at Göbekli remain almost unknown, not yet incorporated in textbooks, is that the evidence is too strong, not too weak. "The problem with this discovery," as Schwartz of Johns Hopkins puts it, "is that it is unique." No other monumental sites from the era have been found. Before Göbekli, humans drew stick figures on cave walls, shaped clay into tiny dolls, and perhaps piled up small stones for shelter or worship. Even after Göbekli, there is little evidence of sophisticated building. Dating of ancient sites is highly contested, but Çatalhöyük is probably about 1,500 years younger than Göbekli, and features no carvings or grand constructions. The walls of Jericho, thought until now to be the oldest monumental construction by man, were probably started more than a thousand years after Göbekli. Huge temples did emerge again—but the next unambiguous example dates from 5,000 years later, in southern Iraq.

The site is such an outlier that an American archeologist who stumbled on it in the 1960s simply walked away, unable to interpret what he saw. On a hunch, Schmidt followed the American's notes to the hilltop 15 years ago, a day he still recalls with a huge grin. He saw carved flint everywhere, and recognized a Neolithic quarry on an adjacent hill, with unfinished slabs of limestone hinting at some monument buried nearby. "In one minute—in one second—it was clear," the bearded, sun-browned archeologist recalls. He too considered walking away, he says, knowing that if he stayed, he would have to spend the rest of his life digging on the hill.

Now 55 and a staff member at the German Archaeological Institute, Schmidt has joined a long line of his countrymen here, reaching back to Heinrich Schliemann, the discoverer of Troy. He has settled in, marrying a Turkish woman and making a home in a modest "dig house" in the narrow streets of old Urfa. Decades of work lie ahead.

Disputes are normal at the site—the workers, Schmidt laments, are divided into three separate clans who feud constantly. ("Three groups," the archeologist says, exasperated. "Not two. Three!") So far Schmidt has uncovered less than 5 percent of the site, and he plans to leave some temples untouched so that future researchers can examine them with more sophisticated tools.

Whatever mysterious rituals were conducted in the temples, they ended abruptly before 8000 B.C., when the entire site was buried, deliberately and all at once, Schmidt believes. The temples had been in decline for a thousand years—later circles are less than half the size of the early ones, indicating a lack of resources or motivation among the worshipers. This "clear digression" followed by a sudden burial marks "the end of a very strange culture," Schmidt says. But it was also the birth of a new, settled civilization, humanity having now exchanged the hilltops of hunters for the valleys of farmers and shepherds. New ways of life demand new religious practices, Schmidt suggests, and "when you have new gods, you have to get rid of the old ones."

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Permalink Reply by Marley on March 9, 2010 at 8:23am

Garfield! This is absolutely amazing!! I wish there were pictures! It was said that secrets would be revealed! YAY!

Although, it would appear that HAARP has other things in mind. I wonder what the details are on this. Was the site destroyed by this earthquake? I can't find out any other info on it. GRRRRR

Earthquake Details
Magnitude 6.0
Date-Time Monday, March 08, 2010 at 02:32:35 UTC
Monday, March 08, 2010 at 04:32:35 AM at epicenter
Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones

Location 38.852°N, 39.949°E
Depth 10 km (6.2 miles) set by location program
Region EASTERN TURKEY
Distances 45 km (30 miles) W of Bingol, Turkey
65 km (40 miles) ENE of Elazig, Turkey
105 km (65 miles) SSE of Erzincan, Turkey
625 km (390 miles) E of ANKARA, Turkey

Location Uncertainty horizontal +/- 6.2 km (3.9 miles); depth fixed by location program
Parameters NST=197, Nph=197, Dmin=437.5 km, Rmss=1.08 sec, Gp= 40°,
M-type=centroid moment magnitude (Mw), Version=A
Source USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)


Event ID us2010tpac

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Permalink Reply by Garfield on March 9, 2010 at 12:01pm

Yeah, that's the 4th massive earthquake already this year, looks like hundreds killed.
Hope you saw the article I posted, a couple of pages back, on huge climate change on Pluto. Ive also read of big climate change on Jupiter. All this is exactly as predicted when Nibiru comes.

I think the new temple site in Turkey is okay. They've only dug about 10 percent of it and already uncovered 50 or more standing stones. Its all intact.

There is a photo with the article but my crappy computer won't copy it. Go to the March 1st issue of Newsweek to see it. Maybe someone reading this can copy it on to here?

love and peace G

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Permalink Reply by phoenician on March 9, 2010 at 1:04pm

Another Earthquake?? after the Chile one you mean? had not heard anything about that, I know that there is some strange activity going on all over the solar system, something connected to the Oort Cloud ? I believe, I watched the video clip you left in this thread Garfield, from Ireland, the images are remarkably similar to the one from NASA, had you noticed how the images of whatever it is look like a X or a Star shape with 5 points. Methinks somethings amiss, and yes I am still of the mind that Planet X / Nibiru is cloaked or something. jmo phoenician

As for H.A.R.R.P theyre up to no good thats as sure as eggs are eggs.

Heres the image you mentioned Garfield

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Permalink Reply by mad cowboy on March 9, 2010 at 3:13pm

I've been feeling that we could be getting pull from some x-tra type of source. Though the earthquakes prove nothing , except in the rapidity , force , and they seam to be spread out. I said I'd worry when we started seeing rogue tides,. we got close rogue waves , If I was smarter and had the resources I'd look into how close an object in space would have to get to effect our orbit. As far as cloaked , what if it was a burned out gas planet? it wouldn't reflect light, the light would go through it. We could actually be the ones moving towards another object like a star that is basically run out of gas, it happens and if mankind was around long enough (doubtful) we'll see Sol do it too. I studied up on the dying stars but I cant remember the X-act term. Maybe you all can help me out, Anyway if it is things like earthquakes, tsunamis , rogue waves and tides, will increase It would probably effect the weather as well. Peace B.

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Permalink Reply by Garfield on March 10, 2010 at 12:12am

Yes, Phoenician, there was a 6.0 earthquake in eastern Turkey last Monday. It was a rural area, about 60 deaths, I think 3 villages destroyed.I think the new temple site is further East than the earthquake zone, but I cant confirm that. I hope its safe.
Thanks for posting the photo, its just beautiful to look at. Apart from the Pyramids, this has to be the most perfectly preserved ancient site on Earth. Remember the builders filled it in. When its all dug out it will still be perfect, not a ruin. After 11,000 years. Incredible.

Cowboy, after the Chile quake, a small coastal town in southern Chile had a 35 metre Tsunami. I think that qualifies as a rogue wave?. Look back to about page 5 on here where Phoenician posted an article on the '' Dark Star'' theory for the explanation on how our Sun is actually one half of a binary system, in other words, it orbits another star/ sun which itself has its own solar system, including Nibiru, which intersects with ours every 3600 years.. The other sun is probably a Brown Dwarf, what you referred to as a burnt out star, which is why it can't easily be seen.Nibiru is not the star itself, its one of its planets that orbits it.
Nibiru could indeed be cloaked or even a planet sized man made, or rather Annunaki made, artificial object.

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Permalink Reply by mad cowboy on March 10, 2010 at 2:12am

Thanks for the info G. The thing I was looking for is when a star implodes on itself , before or without becoming a black hole. However just checked out the RSOE map, three more earthquakes 5.1 in Alaska A smaller new one in Turkey and another one in Iran.
Say Marley thanks for the wave report , crazy tides would be a far more concrete example that something is going on. Peace B. http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php I guess everybody already has this map but if you dont its hard to find a better faster source of whats happening disaster wise.

Permalink Reply by mad cowboy on March 12, 2010 at 3:53pm

hey G. the thing i was looking for is a neutron star [′nü‚trän ‚stär]
(astronomy)
A star that is supposed to occur in the final stage of stellar evolution; it consists of a superdense mass mainly of neutrons, and has a strong gravitational attraction from which only neutrinos and high-energy photons could escape so that the star is invisible.
peace B. or a white dwarf

Small, hot star, the last stage in the life of a star such as the Sun. White dwarfs make up 10% of the stars in the Galaxy; most have a mass 60% of that of the Sun, but only 1% of the Sun's diameter, similar in size to the Earth. Most have surface temperatures of 8,000°C/14,400°F or more, hotter than the Sun. However, being so small, their overall luminosities may be less than 1% of that of the Sun. The Milky Way contains an estimated 50 billion white dwarfs.

Permalink Reply by Marley on March 10, 2010 at 1:14am

Residents of coastal Haumoana, pounded today by sea swells of up to six metres, are being asked to be prepared to evacuate if conditions worsen when the next high tide arrives overnight.



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Police evacuated residents from 21 houses at Haumoana Beach, 10km north-east of Hastings, and another four residents at Ocean Beach, 24km south-east of Hastings.

An area stretching from Waipatiki Beach, south east of Dannevirke, to Whirinaki, 15km north east of Napier, and including Te Awanga, Clifton and Waimarama was also affected by the swells.

By 2.30pm, residents were being told they could return home, but that they should be prepared to leave again if necessary when the next high tide comes at 1.20am tomorrow.

"At the last high tide beachfront houses at Haumoana were taking a pounding, with some windows smashed and debris being thrown up onto properties," Senior Sergeant Ross Smith said.

"Swells have subsided from their peak of up to six metres but we're still calling for people to be vigilant."

Locals reported one wave "that was higher than a house."

People were asked to stay away from beaches and low-lying waterways till swells subsided completely.

"We've got a road block on Ocean Beach Road to keep sightseers out of there and we are asking people to stay away from low-lying waterways," said Senior Sergeant Ross Smith.

"Coastal residents are well practiced at reacting to high swells but even they are saying this is the worst they've seen in 12 years."

MetService said swells would continue to reduce over the next few days.

Police reported debris washing onto Clifton Rd at Haumoana, with erosion affecting the road to the Clifton Motorcamp at the other end of the settlement.

Hastings District Council has been monitoring the swells over the weekend. As they continued to build today, the council activated an emergency management operation. By 2.30pm the centre was no longer on alert.

Earlier there were reports that not all residents were leaving their properties as requested, with some treating the evacuation notices as voluntary.

They told The Dominion Post they were waiting to see what happened at high tide, which had been expected around 12.50pm.

Residents had said the swells today were not as bad as last night, when water went through their gardens on to the road.

- with NZPA

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Permalink Reply by Garfield on March 10, 2010 at 3:35am

Hey Cowboy, a star that implodes on itself is called a Supernova, I think. The Hubble telescope caught one going off not long ago. If one happened to go off and we were in line of the energy released by it, its instant total wipeout for all life on Earth, although fortunately the odds are billions to one on that one.

The current quakes and rogue waves are not within the usual parameters.The Earth is stretching herself, waking up, as the alignment and, maybe, Nibiru approach.

Permalink Reply by sarah littlecott on March 14, 2010 at 10:40pm

I have been monitoring, reading all kinds of info on Nibiru for the past 2 years! There is definatley something coming. The solar system is showing us the event is going to happen. Not the end of mankind but a good, natural clear out!! The goverments of each country know what's coming and have built underground shelters for the people they consider worthy - fiancially rich!! to survive whereas us normal, people - fiancailly poor!! will have no chance! I have planned my survival, live life now to the max!!!

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Permalink Reply by Garfield on May 26, 2010 at 11:08pm

Discovering the Oldest Man-made Structures on Earth.
A 10-part article by Michael Tellinger June 2009

Part 1 of 10

Exposing the Lost City of ENKI

Scholars have told us that the first civilisation on Earth emerged between the rivers Tigris and Euphrates in a land called Sumer some 6000 years ago. Recent archaeological findings suggest that the Sumerians may have inherited some of their knowledge and symbolisms from an earlier civilisation that emerged many thousands of years earlier in southern Africa – the cradle of humankind. The constant references to southern Africa in the Sumerian texts as a ‘time before time’ leaves very little doubt that this was the case.
Why have we been so resistant to this information?
Is it our arrogance?
Or are we just scared of change?

The discovery of the oldest statue of the Hawk Head of Horus, about 260,000 years old; petroglyphs of winged disks with a cross, and two pyramids aligned to Adam’s Calendar and the rise of Orion, are forcing us to rewrite human history. Let us cast the dogma of our existing knowledge aside and embrace the new evidence.


Adam’s Calendar – Should actually be called ENKI’s calendar. The flagship ruin at the centre of the largest and most mysterious ancient city on Earht.. The Sumerian tablets tell us that this was a special place of observation built by ENKI in the deep ABZU (South Africa) around 260,000 years ago. Before the ADAMU was created.

When I wrote and released ‘Slave Species of god’ I never realised the kind of impact it would have on people all over the world. I am quite overwhelmed to have received feedback from readers in over 20 countries, describing how it has changed their lives and allowed them to question without fear of being punished by some invisible old man in the sky. But the biggest surprise has been meeting Johan Heine at one of my talks which opened up the floodgates of the next phase of my research.

When Johan first introduced me to the ancient stone ruins of southern Africa, I had no idea of the incredible discoveries we would make in the year or two that followed. The photographs, artefacts and evidence we have accumulated points unquestionably to a lost and never-before-seen civilisation that predates all others – not by just a few hundred years, or a few thousand years… but many thousands of years. These discoveries are so staggering that they will not be easily digested by the mainstream historical and archaeological fraternity, as we have already experienced. It will require a complete paradigm shift in how we view our human history.

I see myself as a fairly open-minded chap but I will admit that it took me well over a year for the penny to drop, and for me to realise that we are actually dealing with the oldest structures ever built by humans on Earth.

The main reason for this is that we have been taught that nothing of significance has ever come from southern Africa. That the powerful civilisations all emerged in Sumeria and Egypt and other places. We are told that until the settlement of the BANTU people from the north, which was supposed to have started sometime in the 12th century AD, this part of the world was filled by hunter gatherers and so-called Bushmen, who did not make any major contributions in technology or civilisation.

Little did we realise that long before Egypt and long before Sumeria, there was a huge ancient city in what the Sumerian tablets call the ABZU (southern Africa). The lost and the first city of ENKI – the Sumerian deity and creator of humankind who was responsible for cloning the species we call Homo sapiens. ABZU is often incorrectly translated as “HELL” by those who grapple with the true meaning of mythology. This is far from the truth because the ABZU was simply known as the land below the equator, where the gold came from. Sumerian tablets tell us clearly that ENKI established a base in the ABZU (southern Africa). This base grew into a very large ancient city occupied by the early human slaves who toiled in the gold mines.

We believe we have now discovered this large city he created. At its peak it was larger than modern-day Johannesburg, covering over 20,000 square kilometres. It consists of well over 100,000 stone ruins still today. These were linked by ancient roads and places of work and worship. ENKI controlled his gold mining operations from here and the fortress of Great Zimbabwe was his headquarters. The evidence of gold mining is everywhere in this part of the world and not only do historic records point to this as being the first place that gold was extracted by humans, new scientific research is there to support it.

Our research has shown that the ancient ruins of South Africa and Zimbabwe go back to around 260,000 years the very first appearance of humans on Earth. I will take you on a journey of discovery as we experienced it over the past 2 years, since late 2007.

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