How the Illuminati have Destroyed the Family and taken the Feminism out of FEMale.

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Permalink Reply by Rah on February 7, 2010 at 10:31am

My two cents worth, or less lol.

I think anything taken to the extreme, can and often does lead to negative outcomes.
I don't personally think that feminism is ALL bad, for it opened up women's eyes to options out
there that they might not have felt was an option to them.

I've always known that I never wanted to stay home, cook, clean, and take care of kids, I've felt that
way since I was a young girl, before I even knew what feminism was. If this makes me unfeminine to
some people, they can say what they will but I disagree with them.

I don't feel the need or desire to have a man protect and take care of me. I'm happy taking care of myself
and I wouldn't want to rely on a man (or anyone for that matter) for my physical, financial or emotional
well being. I'm very content looking after myself.

The last sentence above, "To become beautiful again, women need to be loved, protected and fulfilled...."
To need is negative, isn't it? And basically, the message this is putting across is for women to become beautiful
again is to allow ourselves to be protected by men?

I disagree 100%. That puts us right back to the 1950s where women were more or less a man's property, with very little
voice outside of the home, which was pretty much the only choice for us, to remain inside the home.
If that's what makes some women happy, hey, go for it. I for one have never had that desire and I'm very glad that I have
so many choices in how to fulfill my life that have little or nothing to do with domesticity.

So in order to become beautiful again, we must relinquish our independence?
I feel that beauty comes from within, and is not dependent on being taken care of or protected
by a man.

A beautiful and independent woman. Yep that's me! :)

Permalink Reply by Rah on February 7, 2010 at 11:36am

An addition. to the above, in regard to women who have children and work fulltime outside of the
home, though in many families here it is necessary for both parents to work to provide the mere basic
necessities for the family, I do agree that a lack of parental involvement in childrens' lives is a huge problem
and is the main reason that children get into trouble and get involved with the wrong crowds etc.

I think it's admirable for women to devote themselves to raising their children themselves, without the involvement
of daycares etc., my comments above were merely my opinion that I don't think that's a woman's only lot or desire in life is to stay at home and raise kids. For those of us who desire something different, I think it's great that we have options. And I don't think either choice is more or less important or worthy of the other.

I think whatever brings you happiness and fulfillment in this life, is what you should pursue.
Rah :)

Permalink Reply by phoenician on February 7, 2010 at 11:56pm

Theres no mention of relinquishing our independance, yes beauty apparently does come from within, and one of the most beautiful sights in the world has and always will be a Mother to Be.

A Modest Feminine Fulfilled, Loved and Protected, Independant Wife and Mother, thats me, and Im proud of the fact.

I also know where my power lies too boot. phoenician

Permalink Reply by alienation on February 10, 2010 at 2:44pm

ah ha ha ha
LMAOL!

Plonker

Permalink Reply by Rah on February 10, 2010 at 3:31pm

Just looked in a mirror, did you?

Permalink Reply by phoenician on February 11, 2010 at 4:21am

LOL nice one Rah.

Unlike some I do have a life and a very good one at that, I also have a loving and caring partner and well adjusted children.

People in glass houses shouldnt throw stones, and its the disrespectful element of society thats encouraging the violent meme world we now live in.

Negativity is rife, a prime example of this is in the above reply from alienation.

phoenician.

Permalink Reply by phoenician on February 7, 2010 at 1:25pm

I respect your right to an opinion Rah, however I also care about the children our children the adults of tomorrow, Im not saying I endorse the way things were for women, a fact I think was grossly exaggerated, and if women want careers then fine, but in doing so what of the children that grow up without really knowing who the person known as theyre Mother is, the person whom those children may if theyre lucky see for a mere 2 hours at most each day, children who will never know what the "family" is, its a known fact that the first 5 years of a childs life are the most important years and what happens to them during those first 5 years is what shapes the adult they will eventually become.

Therefore those children who are farmed out to child minders dont have the influence of a Mother to help and guide them in life, fine go ahead take in the brainwashing, at the expense of the children, women can be independant and be mothers at same time millions do so daily. They dont have to lose their femininity to do so, being feminine and wanting to be a wife and mother is not a crime, in same token being an unfeminine woman doesnt make anyone independant.

Being a Mother is a choice not a chore, and women had been doing this for years,It worked quite well too surprisingly, now however with the destruction of the family our world is violent and the value of human life is almost nothing. But hey bring in 2 wage packets and get bigger and better than your neighhbour, you know it makes sense!! even if it is sacrificing the adults who will run this world in the future, which is going to be hell on earth.

phoenician.

Permalink Reply by mad cowboy on February 7, 2010 at 2:19pm

Id like too cast my manly 2 cents in. First off nobody has a right to oppress anyone and I've never met a female that was less than me . When I look at strong admirable women I think of my grandmother she raised 10 kids and after that she went to college. My grandfather was the head of the house but everyone but him knew it was her that ran the show.
I think that most mothers work because they have to.
Overall we all need to protect the women of the world, a lot from religious crazies. Thats something to remember especially in religion but almost all the rules were made by men. And I dont see this generation as any worse than the previous one . The whole world is degenerating what do you expect from them, if I was a kid looking at the world we left them I'd be pretty ticked off wouldn't you. peace B.

Permalink Reply by phoenician on February 8, 2010 at 9:05am

Thanks for your input Cowboy.

Permalink Reply by phoenician on February 7, 2010 at 10:32pm

Marie N. Robinson MD, a Cornell educated psychiatrist devoted her New York City practice to the treatment of frigidity. Her book, The Power of Sexual Surrender (1958) is a revealing study of the feminine psyche. It is out-of-print. Why? It is politically incorrect.

Dr. Robinson says that millions of American women suffer from frigidity. While she explores many different causes, she notes that frigid women universally adopt the feminist view. This view, that a career as a wife and mother is demeaning and men exploit woman, creates an "emotional logjam" which obstructs sexual response and psychological development.

Dr. Robinson writes that a woman's identity lies in an "essential feminine altruism."

Her self-expression and power are based on making her husband and children her first priority. Similarly, her sexual satisfaction and spiritual fecundity depend on self-surrender.

GENDER DIFFERENCES

Robinson says men and women are different by nature. Men are designed for mastery of the external (physical) world, and women for mastery of the internal (spiritual) world and the home. These are not social stereotypes, as feminists argue.

"Women are designed for duties different from those of the marketplace, another kind of stress entirely," writes Robinson. They "tend to lose their essential womanliness if they stay [in the marketplace] by choice." (149)

According to Robinson, modern women have an identity crisis because they think they are no longer needed as women. Before the industrial revolution, the home was the centre of all life and a woman was its heart. She nursed and trained the children, prepared clothing and food, and helped with farm tasks.

The industrial revolution seemed to make women obsolete. Children were not needed and were even considered a liability. Everything could be bought in stores. The home was empty. Children went to school, husbands to work.

Woman's response was to turn against her own femininity. Mary Wollstonecraft wrote a feminist manifesto Vindication of the Rights of Women (1792) that proclaimed women were identical to men, and promoted maleness in women.

According to Robinson, "the feminist credo thoroughly discredited feminine needs and characteristics and substituted male goals for female goals."(53)

The other response to the industrial revolution was not feminist, but "Victorian." Robinson says Victorian women took "revenge" on men by denying women had any sexual feelings. They "were amazingly successful in convincing men in general and even the scientists of the day that frigidity was indeed a basic attribute of the female." (54)

Thus, feminists and Victorian women both laid the foundations for modern female neurosis.

"The depreciation of the goals of femininity, biological and psychological, became part and parcel of the education of millions of American girls. Homemaking, childbearing and rearing, cooking, the virtues of patience, lovingness, giving ness in marriage, have been systematically devalued. The life of male achievement has been substituted for the life of female achievement." (55)

FEMININE DEVALUATION AND SELF-HATRED

The feminist-Victorian antagonism to men was handed down from mother to daughter so that "to millions of women, hostility towards the opposite sex seems almost a natural law. Although many a modern women may pay lip service to the ideal of a passionate and productive marriage to a man, underneath she deeply resents her role, conceives of the male as fundamentally hostile to her, as an exploiter of her. She wishes in her deepest heart, and often without the slightest awareness of the fact, to supplant him, to exchange roles with him." (emphasis mine 56)

Robinson says that if feminism had brought women happiness, the game might have been worth it.

"But it hasn't been. The game has brought frigidity and restlessness and a soaring divorce rate, neurosis, homosexuality, juvenile delinquency all that results when a woman in any society deserts her true function." (56)

Dr. Robinson writes that once the emotional "log jam" is removed, a woman's natural instincts will flow and health will be restored. Essentially this involves "allowing herself to trust her husband in a very deep sense. It means that she finally realizes that she no longer has to fear or oppose his strength, but that she can rely on it to protect her, to give her the secure climate necessary for the full flowering of her femininity." (153)

For a profound vaginal orgasm, Robinson writes, "the excitement comes from the act of surrender. There is a tremendous surging physical ecstasy in the yielding itself, in the feeling of being the passive instrument of another person..." (158)

On the other hand, the woman who mistrusts her husband's love and, as a consequence, her own femininity has a "difficult, painful, frenetic" approach to life. She is at war with herself. In bed, she has to feel "in control all the time."

Robinson regards the clitoris as a masculine vestige. She implies that a woman may still be frigid even if she is sexually active and mechanically adroit. Feminine sexuality depends on "absolute trust" in a man, which allows a woman to fully receive and fully respond.

Dr. Robinson says there is nothing in life more important than love. She believes marriage is the key to human development. The power of love is felt in the world through this relationship.

"Love means, in its very deepest sense union; union between individuals...It is the most basic and profound urge we have and its power for good is illimitable... the lover partner becomes as important as oneself...This fact is why real love never leads to domination or to a struggle for power..." (129)

FEMINISM AS ELITE DEPOPULATION PROGRAM

The significance of The Power of Sexual Surrender is profound.

By coercing women to abandon their femininity and usurp the male role, feminism throws a spanner in the natural heterosexual mechanism of humanity. Millions of women are condemned to loneliness and frustration. Similarly, men are deprived of the role of protector and provider essential to their development and fulfillment.

The triumph of such a wrongheaded ideology, and the suppression of the truth, signifies that control in the world has passed to a malignant force. As I have shown in previous articles an amoral elite power fosters feminism as part of a long-term agenda to dislodge western civilization from its religious and cultural moorings.

Tax-exempt foundations, the elite media, the CIA and the Communist Party of the USA are all behind the promotion of sexual dysfunction in the guise of feminism.

The purpose is to destroy the nuclear family, decrease population, stunt human development and destabilize society. We are a luxury the super rich can no longer afford. Our government is part of this agenda that aims to create a materialist, totalitarian "New World Order". Feminists who oppose the NWO are in fact its unwitting agents .

CONCLUSION

I encourage women to have careers if they want to, but if they also want marriage and family, career should be secondary. Naturally men and women should be treated equally in the work force.

Robinson's book confirms my thesis that woman wants love and man wants power. Heterosexual marriage is based on the exchange of female worldly power for male love.

A woman who seeks power is neutering herself and her husband. She will not receive love from a man whose identity is based on power. She cannot love someone she competes with. He cannot love her. This is the dilemma of feminists today.

As Marie N. Robinson confirms, woman loves by entrusting her power to the right man, her husband. He uses it to champion her interests. Thus she both empowers him and channels male power in a socially constructive direction. A woman's real power is love, the power of self surrender.

http://www.henrymakow.com/000441.html

Permalink Reply by F8 on February 8, 2010 at 2:03am

rubbish.

Permalink Reply by Rah on February 8, 2010 at 8:49am

I don't think anyone's opinions are rubbish. No matter what each of us chooses to believe,
all views are valid and no less important than others'.
Also each of us were raised in different environments with different factors influencing our beliefs
so of course not all of us are going to see everything through the same eyes.
Many of us being from different countries with different cultures definitely plays a role too.

I do see what you're saying P about children who are raised by someone other than their mothers
won't have that guidance in their lives and parents who put their careers before their kids will of course
lack that family bond.

While some dual income families work out of their desire to keep up with the Joneses, that is by all means
not the norm. The majority of my friends who are working mothers, work to support their families. Keeping up
with the Joneses is the furthest thing from their minds. Especially in this economy, families these days are just
trying to keep a roof over their heads and put food on the table. Most of my friends who are mothers however, if given the choice, would in fact prefer to be stay at home moms they've stated.

Each of my female cousins has children, and along with their husbands, they work outside of the home. Not for material gain but to provide for their childrens' future, aka college etc. but not one of my cousins would ever put their work above their kids.

I disagreed with the second article posted, which suggested in order for women to become beautiful, we need the companionship of a man to achieve this. As I stated, all opinions are valid, I just happen to disagree with this, it's a bit archaic for my taste and contradicts what I've been taught and what I choose to believe.

My maternal grandmother instilled in each of us granddaughters the importance of being able to support ourselves independently and not rely completely on anyone because you never knew what life has in store.
She spoke from experience, because my grandfather left her and their two children, leaving grandma without
a penny. Grandma had no choice but to work fulltime to support her family, and that was during a time when it
was not the norm for women to work outside the home, but because of that, she learned the importance of being independent and not relying on anyone else. She encouraged all of us to complete our degrees so we could "be our own breadwinner."

I say do what you want to do and be who you want to be, whatever makes you happy, because nobody else
can do that for us. Learned that lesson the hard way LOL.

Rah

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