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21st Dec, Cult creation experiment

This is the outline of a study performed by 3 sociologists at the University of Minnesota in 1954, a more detailed description can by found in the book ''When Prophecy Fails'' and this outline is from the book ''The Stargate Conspiracy''.
Before you read this just ask yourself these questions:
*When did you first hear about 21st dec 2012l?
*What do you know personally about this date which you haven't read in books or on the internet?
*How much do you trust the information which has been given concerning 2012?
*When did the 2012 date first appear in the publics conscious, and who did it come from?
*Do you think the mainstream media is trying to influence your 2012 viewpoint sub-consciously?

I first heard of the 2012 date about 2 years ago before which I had no knowledge of any significance attached to this time period or of the mayan calendar. From my understanding the first books started to appear containing 2012 prophecy's in the seventies, and you know how the phenomenon has gradually grown since then.

Anyway these are the details of the 1954 study which I believe is a test run for 2012, you make your own minds up:

'On 27th August 1954 Dorothy Martin received a warning fron the Guardians(ET's) of a wave of imminent catastrophes, which would include the disappearance of the east coast of the United States as well as Britain and France - under the sea on 21st December 1954. The Laugheads (Dr Charles and Lillian Laughead) took the lead in publicising these warnings, taking the story to the press.
At this stage the group of sociologists from the University of Minnesota decided to infiltrate the group in order to make a hands-on study of the behavior of such cults and, in particular, to see first-hand the reactions of true believers when the prophecies failed to materialise. As we know, the east coast of the United States did not find itself in a watery grave on 21st Dec 1954, and neither did Britain or France. The Minnesota study charted the gradual break-up of the group and its members' struggle to come to terms with the failure, and the resulting sense of loss and bereavement that such cruel disillusionment brings in its wake. Only one or two members admitted losing their faith in the Guardians, the majority coming up with a variety of more or less plausible rationalisations - or perhaps 'irrationalisations' - to explain the failure. Some said it had been a test of faith, or that the strength of their belief had actually averted the catastrophe. Quaintly, under the circumstances, the real tension in the group was caused by arguments about which of these excuses was the right one! The circle finally collapsed under the intense weight of public humiliation and ridicule.'

Like it or not 2012 has a cult following and much has been presented as fact with no real basis, alot of the time we are taking the word of a small group of people and now many more have jumped on this runaway train.
If you make enough people believe in a myth and they tell others it moves from myth to fact to public concsiousness.
The real question is why a small group of people are trying to convince us that the world is going to end.

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Comment by Garfield on December 7, 2009 at 1:20am: Scorpio, I agree with much of what you say, it would be disastrous if we recreated this world after the World Change that's going to occur in 2012.We should all strive to refocus our minds and our intentions towards making ourselves and the world into something better than the mess we and the world are in now.But I do believe we are on an evolutionary path that will lead to a way of living after 2012 which we will find to be totally different from where we are now. If you read that quote again from my previous post, from Drunvalo's comments about the modern Mayans, you will see they insist that those who survive after 2012 will build a better world, so their message is a very positive take on what their ancestors forsaw. The old Mayans who created the Calendar haven't left us hardly anything on what they thought the post 2012 world would be like, so we must hope that the modern Mayans have got it right, cos if they have , its what you and I and all of us hope for. I admit this sounds a lot like '' waiting for someone to come along and fix us'' and I see why that annoys you, but I think we are where we are because nobody can fix us within the the game we are currently stuck in, so we need the game board to be turned over and a whole new game to begin and that's what's going to happen in 2012.The Mayans said that Quetzalcoatl will come down from the sky, he will '' descend down the serpent rope''.and be amongst us again. What he and the other '' sky gods'' will do once they're here remains to be seen, but I believe it will be positive for humanity.

Alan, thanks for posting that old Terence McKenna video, Ive listened to it many times before and its brilliant. He was a genius and one of the most enlightened men of the 20 th century IMO.

G

Comment by j on December 6, 2009 at 11:12am: Rofl!.... sorry about that garfield, I'm not attach to these things rofl when I encountered it first time about 2 days ago I was stunned... took humanities in college, I know it when I see one and that one is fresh! It's absurd and the heck I like it:) rofl
[and to think i'm not even stoned..] made me think of terence mc keena-- um now i get to pull this out once again coz this one is so right on!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iFpw0uIkbo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c8an2XZ3MU [i know this one's off topic again, but.. what the heck i'll throw it in here anyway]

Comment by phoenician on December 6, 2009 at 1:11am: p.s. thank you for the links Alan.

Comment by phoenician on December 6, 2009 at 1:08am: Admittedly mentioning Susan Boyle did take things slightly off topic however if what I have read is correct, she has triumphed over adversity, so wouldnt that be something for others to aspire to for the year 2012, in same token what happened to Katie Piper( she had acid thrown in her face) is also an inspiration, so perhaps theres a message there,or do we want to survive 2012 only to be living in the same state of Negativity with the same Memes calling the shots worldwide,Myself I wouldnt want to survive 2012 if there wasnt any hope of a better world after, it would be pointless, instead of going over the same ground again and again, wouldnt we be doing something productive for humanity, by making changes to OURSELVES instead of doing what weve always done waiting for someone to come along and fix us? Maybe we should consider this aspect, the Mayans and Drunvalos or whoever seem to have left that little fact out of their stories. yet it is staring us in the face, we are going to be the cause of our extinction, or cant others see this obvious fact? JMO scorpio.

Comment by Garfield on December 5, 2009 at 11:18pm: Okay okay, slow down, how did we get from one of the most interesting discussions on here for ages to Susan bloody Boyle?? LOL
Thanks for your comment, Alan and I did have to smile at the Susan Boyle reference and she does have the biggest selling album in the States this year, but come on, if that's where our culture is headed, then 2012 can't come fast enough for me, lol.
Scorpio, don't get tempted to go back to TV, its even crappier than when you left it. Simon Cowell is definitely a Reptilian, lol. If anyone is psychically influencing humanity its that twat.

love and peace, G

Comment by Marti on December 5, 2009 at 5:28pm: Sounds a bit like the cult of global warming when you put it that way.

Comment by j on December 5, 2009 at 2:48pm: rofl no babe its not really biggy, i noticed the dates in yt are way back april but the style and the songs are u know-- she's not the likes of other song queens their versions are kinda "tired".. this one isn't waxed and styled like 'em either...it's off topic but nway will give u a sampling here hehe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7Ayk9G7-sc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BvBkTmDWBA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_gLCug6-nw

Comment by phoenician on December 5, 2009 at 1:35pm: OMG Susan Boyle, Ive heard about her, didnt she win some thing on English T.V. that programme with Simon Cowle in or on the panel or something, dont watch tv so going on small recollection of something I read online a while back, Im sure someone knows, so shes also hit the USA, good for her.

Comment by j on December 5, 2009 at 12:27pm: this time you nailed it garfield.. our future will be bleaker if... i feel so down also, i feel i am kept in a fucking void, so i started listening to susan boyle's songs, which are but few in YT but oh boy.. what a rush,,and the fact that this is american idol something[um no tv in the house-- just discovered it the other day rofl].

Comment by Garfield on December 5, 2009 at 10:11am: Hey Scorpio, glad you get me and happy to be on the same team, lol.

David, thanks for the explanation, I get it now. Im not surprised you're going crazy reading those books, I read stuff like that and eventually you get lost in a swamp of paranoia, anything could be real, anything could be '' psychic influencing'', so again I say you can only go with your instinct, use your best judgement and ultimately trust your heart.At the moment Im not convinced that '' a small group of people are trying to convince us that the world is going to end'', which seems to be your conclusion. I admit its a possibility, there is certainly a lot of hype and a lot of people writing crap and generally cashing in, especially the websites promoting the sale of survival gear etc., but the origins of the idea of 2012 go way back, you could say even thousands of years if you include the creation stories and beliefs of indigenous peoples etc.. In modern times, the thesis goes back to people like Terence McKenna and a British writer called Maurice Cotterill, both of whom I totally respect in terms of their integrity. In some ways,you could even argue that if we are being '' psychically influenced'' to believe in 2012, then our future is just as bleak, probably bleaker, than if the usual scenarios are genuine. Either way, its not looking good for our futures. Thanks, now Im really down.. Maybe I 'll give up on all of this and go back to watching the soaps, lol.

G

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